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      <title><![CDATA[Intelligence Failure? Really? ]]></title>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ever since the failed attempt over Christmas in which a Nigerian man attempted to blow up a Northwest Airlines flight, there's been a growing din from media outlets about more &quot;intelligence failures.&quot;&amp;nbsp; In addition, the finger-pointing has begun, and now everyone wants to assign blame.&lt;/P&gt;
    &lt;P&gt;I would submit that this incident doesn't represent an intelligence failure. The failure seems to rest with decision makers.&amp;nbsp; Intelligence informs.&amp;nbsp; Commanders, leaders, elected officials and decision makers are the ones who are charged with acting on it.&lt;/P&gt;
    &lt;P&gt;In this case, the intelligence seems to have covered all phases of the intelligence cycle.&amp;nbsp; It was collected, processed, analyzed and most importantly, disseminated.&amp;nbsp; For whatever reason, some decision-maker did not feel it necessary to put Farouk on the 'no-fly' list. In the end, TSA wasn't able to act on the available information.&lt;/P&gt;
    &lt;P&gt;Already, we're seeing that passengers are suffering for it, and I expect there to be even more knee-jerk restrictions placed on weary travelers.&lt;/P&gt;
    &lt;P&gt;Farouk should have never been on that plane, and the question isn't what sort of intelligence we're collecting, it's about our leaders and their decision-making process.&amp;nbsp; Somewhere, somehow...some decision maker didn't put Farouk on that list.&lt;/P&gt;
    &lt;P&gt;Anyone have any thoughts for discussion?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:58:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>I found a link to a good, comprehensive, detailed and fairly accurate synopsis of how the President has exercised a decision-making process. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's a good read, and highly recommended, and sure beats 10-second sound bites that come from TV media.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/asia/06reconstruct.html?_r=1&amp;amp;pagewanted=all&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Discussion?&lt;/p&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:31:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Berlin Wall - 20 Years Later ]]></title>
      <description>I thought I'd share a link to a good article, and see what kind of discussion emerges. &amp;nbsp;There are some good points and lessons from history, and it's also a good opportunity to provide context. &amp;nbsp;The Berlin Wall came down 20 years ago today. &amp;nbsp;Link to article: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-mann6-2009nov06,0,5455746.story &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fly&lt;/p&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:47:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[ROTC and Universities ]]></title>
      <description>Ok, I haven't posted anything in quite a while, but this caught my eye.
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Here's the link: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i36/36b00801.htm?utm_source=cr&amp;amp;utm_medium=en&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Main takeaway from the article is this:&amp;nbsp; &quot;A gulf between the military and the university is not healthy for
American democracy. The constitutional order requires a civil-military
relationship that protects military professionalism and autonomy, while
also honoring the principle and practice of civilian control. Public
awareness of national-security matters allows for a more effective
partnership between the military and society. A public ignorant of the
proper role of the military can lead to three major problems:
uncritical support for military actions, or what Andrew J. Bacevich, a
professor of international relations and history at Boston University,
calls the &quot;new American militarism&quot;; endorsement of an opposite,
antimilitary ideology that perceives the armed forces as evil or as the
&quot;other&quot;; or a simple lack of knowledge regarding the military and
strategic-security matters. National security is the cardinal duty of
the state, and debate about the appropriate means of achieving security
is a matter of vital importance to us all.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Comments?&lt;/p&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:53:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[More on Veterans' Benefits ]]></title>
      <description>Given the recent Quadsville discussions on veterans and their care and benefits, I thought it might be worth posting the following article I found in the current issue of Navy Times. &amp;nbsp;Again, a word of thanks to &quot;sikpuppy&quot; for bringing the issue up on previous threads. &amp;nbsp;Comments welcome, of course!
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;&quot;&gt;Veterans Group’s Report Card Gives
McCain Poor Marks&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Republican Nominee Gets a “D”, Obama earns a “B” from
nonpartisan IAVA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;By Rick Maze &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:maze@militarytimes.com&quot;&gt;maze@militarytimes.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, (IAVA) a
nonpartisan, non-profit group with more than 100,000 members, has issued a
congressional report card in advance of the November general elections that
gives an “A” to more than 300 lawmakers, including 150 who received an A+ for
their support and votes on key issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;But most of the attention of the Oct 7 report focuses on who
got bad grades from the influential group that was called to testify before
Congress more than 30 times in 2008 on issues involving combat troops and their
families.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Seven lawmakers received a “D,” and two scored an “F.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;One “D” went to Sen. John McCain of Arizona,
the republican presidential candidate, ranking Republican on the Senate Armed
Services Committee and retired Navy Officer and a decorated Vietnam veteran who
spend 5 &amp;#189; years as a prisoner of war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois,
who never served in the military but sits on the Senate Veterans’ Affairs
Committee, received a “B,” as did his vice-presidential running mate, Sen. Joe
Biden, D-Delaware.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Two people—both republicans—received an “F”:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint and Texas Rep.
Ron Paul.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Both have long records of
opposing new spending, and Paul also missed several key veterans votes while
running for the Republican presidential nomination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;McCain’s press office did not return several calls seeking
comment, but his low score is the result of his missing six of the 10 votes
used to calculate the grade and his failure to sign on as a co-sponsor of the
Post-9/11 GI Bill, which was a top priority for IAVA.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;McCain was one of the chief sponsors of a competing
education benefits bill that IAVA and every other major veterans group opposed
because its basic benefits would not have fully covered the costs of attending
college.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;‘You’ve Got to Show
Up’&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Some McCain supporters said IAVA’s report card seems biased
by holding McCain accountable for missing votes that ended up passing by
overwhelming margins, showing his vote was not necessary, and grading him as if
he had voted in opposition.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Paul
Rieckhoff, founder and executive director of IAVA and an Iraq war veteran, said
there is nothing personal or partisan in McCain’s score.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;“We did not plan it that way,” Rieckhoff said, adding that
it is one thing to say you support veterans but another to cast the vote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;“You’ve got to show up,” he said.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Rieckhoff said the scorecard shows most members of Congress
are strong supporters of recent combat veterans.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;For senators, scores were based on 10 votes involving
increased funding for veterans’ programs, expansion of benefits, the purchase
of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles and four separate votes at
various stages of consideration on the Post-9/11 GI Bill of Rights and
co-sponsorship of the bill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Fifty-five senators received an “A.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;In the House, grades were based on 13 votes and
co-sponsorship of the full-tuition GI Bill program that became law earlier this
year.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The votes were on bills that had to do with increasing
veterans suicide prevention, refugee status for translators who worked with
U.S. troops in Iraq, expanded wounded warrior treatment programs and ending the
government’s policy of requiring repayment of bonuses by people who did not
complete their military obligation because of death or disability.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Five House members received a “D,” while 250 received an “A.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Vanessa Williamson of IAVA said the grades are based on
items drawn from the associations legislative agenda, which was provided to
every congressional office.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Getting a good score was on that difficult because many of
the votes were unanimous or nearly unanimous.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;In the Senate, only three votes on the Post-9/11 GI Bill made a
significant difference in grades.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;In the House, two votes on the GI Bill and a 2007 vote about
whether Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans should be given two years or five
years of no-questions-asked health care from the Department of Veterans Affairs
made the difference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Rep. Susan Davis, D-California, chairwoman of the House
Armed Services subcommittee on personnel, who got a A+, said she was proud to
work closely with IAVA to improve mental health benefits for combat veterans as
well as education benefits.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“IAVA’s commitment
and dedication to our veterans serving in Iraq and Afghanistan is truly
inspiring,” she said.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“I am honored by
the recognition and look forward to working with IAVA in the next Congress.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;First, I’d like to acknowledge and applaud Sikpuppy for his
recent posts on VA benefits.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I don’t
think your posts are falling on deaf ears, and you’ve touched on an important
issue, and you’ve struck a few chords that are worthy of discussion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I’ve followed both VA issues and other items that affect
both our active duty military and veterans.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Sikpuppy has highlighted and illustrated many of the shortcomings of the
VA, and leveled much of the blame at republicans.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;While I would argue that there are a good
number of republicans that support VA benefits (Chuck Hagel comes to mind), the
White House has a record of opposing new VA funding and measures, including the
legislation earlier this year that involved VA benefits and the GI Bill.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The following link sums up many of the
sentiments that Sikpuppy has already shared:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.thehill.com/2008/08/21/bush-administration-congressional-enablers-have-consistently-underfunded-the-va/&quot;&gt;http://blog.thehill.com/2008/08/21/bush-administration-congressional-enablers-have-consistently-underfunded-the-va/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;With an ever-increasing number of wounded and sick veterans,
it seems like common sense that the nation should care for its veterans. The
following link is to a survey that highlights this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dav.org/news/news_survey_2008.html&quot;&gt;http://www.dav.org/news/news_survey_2008.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;As a legislative body, Congress continues to support VA
benefits, and also improvements for our active duty forces, such as annual pay
adjustments that keep up with inflation.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;The Bush Administration has made plenty of press releases and claims to
support military members and veterans, but more often than not opposes any
increases.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In the interest of balance, the
following link provides the White House perspective:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/veterans/&quot;&gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/veterans/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;One quote from the White House web site was “Over the past
seven years, the Administration has increased funding for veterans by more than
95 percent.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;True, but what you won’t
hear is the fact the Administration opposed most of the measures…the president
signed the various bills into law because either a) Congress would have overridden
the veto, or b) it was forced into funding bills by Congress, and the President
had to pass it to get other major funding approved for the wars.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Either way, Congress has increasingly bucked
the President’s budget proposals for the VA, active military and military
families.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A NYT article from earlier
this year illustrates this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/washington/23spend.html?ref=nationalspecial3&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/washington/23spend.html?ref=nationalspecial3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I’ve pondered whether the subject should be posted in a “National
Security and Foreign Policy” group, since I’ve been trying to figure out if
this a national security issue.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;My
conclusion is “yes.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Why?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Because the
health and welfare of our troops and veterans is a reflection of America.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Caring for those who gave great sacrifice is
more important than multi-billion dollar contracts to defense
corporations.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The common denominator between all veterans of military
service is summed up in a simple quote I once heard (I can’t remember the
author though): “Every veteran, regardless of job or branch of service wrote a
blank check payable to the United States, for a value up to and including
his/her life.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;It seems reasonable to me that the nation should reciprocate
with the best care it can offer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;We ask our young men and women to volunteer…to make great
sacrifices in the line of duty, and to assume hardships that most people have a
hard time comprehending.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Earlier this year, the Bush Administration opposed the new
VA funding bill, which included better GI Bill benefits.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The administration’s stance was summed up in
the NYT article: &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;---------&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;“The White House and
the Pentagon said they feared that the bill would encourage men and women to
leave the armed forces and enroll in college with federal aid, at a time when
the military already has difficulty retaining troops to fight abroad.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;But Mr. Webb and other
supporters of the bill said the benefits would help the armed forces recruit
and retain personnel. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;“There are no politics
here,” Mr. Webb said. “This is about taking care of the people who have taken
care of us.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;---------&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I agree with Senator Webb, and it should be noted that 25
republicans in the Senate broke ranks with the White House.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Plus, the White House pushed a specious
argument, and eventually withdrew opposition…only when they realized it would
be passed with a veto-proof majority. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Some more on the history of the GI Bill:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/22/sunday/main4200692.shtml&quot;&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/22/sunday/main4200692.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I would argue that better GI Bill benefits would HELP both
recruitment and retention.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It
demonstrates to prospective soldiers, sailors and airmen the level of commitment
the nation has to them, which is only right, considering the level of
commitment we ask of them to the nation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I’d love to hear discussion on this topic.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I think Sikpuppy is correct…supporting the
troops involves a lot more than yellow magnets and flag waving.&lt;/p&gt;
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      <description>It's often a hotly debated topic, and gives rise to some interesting discussion.&amp;nbsp; Should military experience be a &quot;must&quot; for a president?&amp;nbsp; Or, is it something that's &quot;nice to have?&quot;&amp;nbsp; Or, does it even matter?
&lt;p&gt;Does it enable presidents to better handle national security affairs and foreign policy? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do the group members think?&lt;/p&gt;
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